Thursday, September 6, 2007

Congratulations Wal-Mart!!!

You have succeeded in turning pharmacy into nothing but a commodity. It's no longer a profession, just a product.

For years we've heard phrases like pharmaceutical care and disease state management being thrown around in the trade magazines. Too bad this stuff doesn't exist, at least not in the minds of the doctors in and around Pharmacy God Town.

I've got physicians telling patients to go to one pharmacy for Drug X, another pharmacy for Drug Y, and giving samples for Drug Z out of the office. The patient's three other doctors are doing the same thing. Apparently all of the so-called pharmacy leaders aren't being heard by the physicians with regards to pharmaceutical care and disease state management. But guess who is going to be sued if the patient suffers an adverse drug event due to an interaction?

Who cares if Pharmacist Mary is a Certified Diabetes Educator? Her pharmacy doesn't charge $4.00 for 60 glipizide 10mg, so we'll just send our diabetic patients to Wal-Mart. Do they have a pharmacist who is a CDE...... Nope. But the drugs are cheap. So is the toilet paper.


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I find it sad that the leaders and educators in our profession are so out of touch with those of us out in the retail world. You can design all of the pharmaceutical care models that you want, it's not changing how other medical professionals view us. I'm going to let the so called leaders in on a little secret about pharmacy that those of us in retail know... we get no respect. Period.

I think it's our own fault. Nobody has spoken up when these giant corporations have made moves that are detrimental to the profession in order to make higher profits. The people who get promoted to district and regional levels of management are yes-men (and women) all the way. Now we are treated like any other employee, not as health care professionals.


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We've got a tremendous shortage of pharmacists, and the outlook is even worse. So what have the leaders and educators in pharmacy done?... Extended the length of time it takes to become a pharmacist. I graduated with a five-year BS degree. I had the option of a six-year PharmD, but I opted to get the BS. Now in Pharmacy God state the minimum is the six-year PharmD, with a few schools taking as long as eight years. That plus the talk of requiring a residency after graduation isn't that attractive to high school students. They see how the public treats the pharmacy staff. Who wants to spend 8-plus years in college to get treated like crap? They can go to medical school and have a residency completed in about the same amount of time. Plus they would get respect. Six figure salaries don't mean a lot when you are getting treated poorly.


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There were some who thought that the whole MTM component of Medicare Part D would bring respect back to the pharmacist. After all, who wouldn't want to be able to sit down with their pharmacist to review their entire medication history. Oh wait, people don't view us that way any more. We're just like burger-flippers. The general public is more likely to sit down with the head burger guy a McDonalds to discuss their nutritional goals for the next year than to make an appointment to talk with their pharmacist. (I speak critically of the MTM because both pharmacists at Pharmacy God Pharmacy have completed the MTM training for three different providers and had a total of one, repeat one MTM session scheduled) YES!!! MTMs will save pharmacy. I think that the profession was hood-winked on this one. Here, we'll let you charge for counseling sessions. We'll also slash your reimbursement to cost minus 8 percent. But you can call the whole MTM thing a victory for the profession. Thanks pharmacy leaders. We scored big on that one.


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If you are one of the so-called pharmacy leaders, you need to drag yourself out of your office and visit some of the pharmacists on the front lines. I don't mean a Hey, how ya doin' visit. Come spend a day at a pharmacy that is filling 600, 700, 800 scripts a day. Try to see if your pharmaceutical care model would work there. Now go to a smaller pharmacy that has one pharmacist and maybe a tech to see how you can provide pharmaceutical care in that environment. Then go back and try to figure out how the over-worked retail pharmacist is going to be able to provide any type the pharmaceutical care while being reimbursed $5.35 over cost for each prescription. Once you can figure that out, we can talk. Until then I really don't want to hear from you.

7 comments:

james r said...

Even though I lack the time in the real world pharmacy setting to really discuss this with you, I do want to say from what I've seen, I agree that the profession does not get a lot of respect.

I'm currently in the 3rd year of pharmacy school (my program is still only 6 years, thank God) and during the summer and winter breaks, I intern for a major pharmacy chain.

I typically get rotated to whichever pharmacy needs the extra help on that day. My intern hours do not count against each store's budget, so you know they love to have me around when they can. I've worked in stores that fill 150-200 scripts a day, and I've worked in stores that fill 700. I've worked in stores with 2 or 3 techs on hand, and I've duo'd with a pharmacist on many days as well. Most of the pharmacists that I work with would love to be able to spend the time to help people manage their medications and make the right decisions but you are absolutely correct, how can they in the volume environment? Most of our area doctors don't really give the pharmacists the time of day. I often joke with patients when I have to make a call to their doctor's office that as soon as the words "pharmacy" or "pharmacist" leave my lips, I'll be placed on voice mail. 3/5 of the time this is the case.

What they teach me in school (pharmaceutical care, DSM, MTM, etc) and what I experience during my school breaks when I work(speed, volume, drive-thru, volume, volume, volume) are two completely different worlds. The pharmacist I work with most of the time is also a BS pharmacist and often tells me that 75% of what I learn in school is going to be useless in the retail setting. This is a bit depressing to me because I'm fairly sure that's where I will end up. At least I'm getting 25% out of 6 years and not 25% out of 8, I suppose. The deans of my school often suggest to us that we consider a residency now, even though it's not required yet because we might not want to have to compete with those who do in 10 or 15 years. This is laughable to me because the BS to Pharm D change hasn't put any BS pharmacists out of a job. What's the point in upping the requirements if they go to waste and/or are ignored by others in the medical profession and our legislatures?

All in all, I've been reading your blog for a few weeks now and even though I'm barely into this game I find myself relating to a lot of what you say here. It's good to know that what happens in the real world pharmacy's I intern for happens in the rest of the world as well.

Keep sharing your thoughts and experiences! They may make for some good therapy for me some day.

Em said...

I agree with you completely. It's shameful what Walmart has done, because it's clearly a decision made with only profits in mind. This only degrades the integrity and image of retail pharmacy further. Iv'e only been in the retail pharmacy business about 3 years (I'm a tech), and It already drives me nuts. Why? Because there is so little respect for it-from the public, and worse of all from other health professions. (Doctor's offices, I'm looking at you!!)

On a lighter note, I really like your blog, and reading your old posts, my favorite one is where you write about the "levels of funk" you become exposed to. Hilarious! I loved it.
Em

Pharmacy Mike said...

I agree 100%.

The other thing that absolutely has to stop is the way our pharmacy educators belittle community pharmacists at every chance they get. Being a community pharmacist does not make one a lesser pharmacist than anyone else. It simply means you work in a different area.

Having just graduated a little over a year ago, I got my fair share of teachers and preceptors telling me to get out of retail and either do a residency or work for a hospital to practice "real" pharmacy. Well, you know what? I got some hospital experience on my rotations, and let me tell you, it's more of the same shit. You still pretty much spend the entire day checking orders. Yeah, you might do a little bit of antibiotic dosing, and you don't have to deal with people treating you like crap, but most of it is similar to the mindless shit that community pharmacists do.

It's really sad when we can't even get respect within our own profession. How are we supposed to gain the respect of patients and other healthcare professionals when we're being looked upon as being the "dumb pharmacists."

DanTech said...

Do you think the pharmacy drive-thru helps pharmacist's image? I get patients at the drive-thru who think I'm the pharmacist. No I'm the tech. I assist the pharmacist. He doesn't do "drive-thru."

Then they ask me if the drive-thru is open later than the pharmacy. Do they think we are Taco Bell?!

Pharmacy God said...

Follow up to pharmacy mike's comment:

Hey professors, I don't exactly see a hospital being built on every other street corner. Train the students for what they are going to face, not whatever imaginary world those of you in academia think exists.




Thank you,
Pharmacy God

girlvet said...

Things are changing...I don't see it going back unfortunately. Thats the thing in medicine you either adjust or get out...don't get out.

PharmD Newbie said...

The lack of respect and lack of using all those six years I paid so damn much for, is what got me into a residency...and I'm happier than I've ever been. I also have the respect of physicians and colleagues AND I get to have input on patients' drug therapies. All in all, for me it's the best choice. I agree that Walmart/Target/Meijer and any place that advertises $4 Rxes and free antibiotics has damaged our profession. It's a profession, not a lemonade stand!!! I am still hopeful for the future of retail. To all you retail pharmacists out there best of luck...some of the smartest, most patient people I have met worked in retail....